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  • I, New York
    Time Out New York / Issue 674 : Aug 28–Sep 3, 2008
    What’s up with that?

    "Stress test" in Times Square?

    Photograph: Beth Levendis

    Q What’s up with the MTA allowing the Scientologists to set up their “stress test” station at the Times Square subway station, and the guy spreads the gospel of Jesus Christ from his table? Can I set up a table to promote the deity of my choice, like the Flying Spaghetti Monster?—David Ezer, NYC

    A Your right to preach religion—be it the Ten Commandments or the tenets of Pastafarianism—is protected by the First Amendment. “This right extends to those customers using New York City Transit facilities, including our subway stations,” says MTA representative Fernando Polanco. As long as you follow rules outlined by the MTA (positioned far enough from ticket booths and entrances, not seeking commercial gain), the subway tunnels can be your very own soapbox. Rev. John Carmichael, president of the Church of Scientology of New York, couldn’t say for sure how many people inquire after their free stress test, but he estimates hundreds. “It’s hugely popular,” he says. “It’s really a public service…it’s not a commercial thing at all.” Carmichael emphasized that stressed-out straphangers stop of their own free will. “If people are interested in finding out about Dianetics, they do,” he said. So bring on Reverend Boyardee.

    See previous What’s up with that?

    — Roisin McGinn

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    • 44861 Raymond Young Sat, Sep 27, at 08:57am
      J. Bobson got it right... everyone's a damn judge but then again I think this ill-informed and pissed off nation can use a little citizen's justice; so why don't we go flip that table or punch that next nasty preacher in the gut or burn a flag? After all, we are faceless and we are all talk.

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    • 39021 Wu Kapauw Mon, Sep 08, at 05:51pm
      TONY readers are surely too wise to fall for the long-standing scam that Scientology is a religion - their svengali of a founder, L. Ron Hubbard, said himself that it was not. The stress test tables are in fact illegal. As other readers have mentioned, they try to sell you Dianetics books there. If you see one and want to do something, call 311 and report them. Report the location and that they are selling books without a street vendor's permit. The police will respond and shut them down.

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    • 37201 John Bobson Mon, Sep 01, at 09:40am
      It is sad when a bunch of individuals are so fast to throw out our constitutional rights when they don't agree with someone. Yes, free speech is sometimes sloppy and upsetting, but it's also what makes our country great. Not everyone loves talking to 'environmentalists', people from 'NOW' or GW Bush haters, but they are also protected. So perhaps we could learn to embrace the system and fear if it were not there, rather than whine when someone uses it.

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    • 36901 dmb Sat, Aug 30, at 12:39pm
      "Not seeking commercial gain"? How is the "stress test" station any different from any other product promotion? Don't be fooled by how much Scientology sucks - some people really can be sold anything. If they want to set up shop in public facilities they need to pay up and pay up on the books, not under the table.

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    • 36021 David Thu, Aug 28, at 07:32am
      Hello...There is never a good cop around when ya need one. Practicing medicine with out a license to me. I think Ill go down and set up a table and give free pelvic exams . While doing the exam you will have to here about my "SYSTEM" for spiritual enlightenment. .......WHERES THE GOVERNMENT WHEN YOU NEED THEM !!!!!! What a load of B.S. !!!!

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    • 35961 Marcia Bane Wed, Aug 27, at 09:44pm
      Interesting choice of words, that John Carmichael had to *emphasize* the "free will" of the people who stop by the stress test table. I suppose I should give him slight kudos for being aware of public sentiment post-Tom Cruise video. Of course, it's undone by him insisting that the stress tests aren't designed to hook people into spending money on books, courses, etc. C'mon man! We non-Scienos aren't completely stupid!

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    • 35911 Arp Cola Wed, Aug 27, at 01:51pm
      Not a commercial thing at all? Ask the "Reverend" why they're selling copies of Dianetics and why their stress tests are designed to fool you into paying more money for Scientology courses which make unsubstantiated scientific claims that go against all medical science. Google "L. Ron Hubbard"

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    • 35871 Omega3 Wed, Aug 27, at 11:49am
      Scientology is ALL commercial gain. There is nothing "religious" about the mad rantings of LRH and his hypnotic "tech", including the mafia tactics they use on their own and outside people. The public needs to wake up to this scam.

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    • 35851 Catherine Longfellow Wed, Aug 27, at 10:10am
      Did the same John Carmichael mention that those stress test tables violate 3 federal laws? 1. The e-meter may not be used to diagnose or practice medicine. Diagnosing stress and making fake promises of the other things your lie detector can "heal" is in violation of this FDA law. 2. There is supposed to be a clearly visable, large warning sticker on all emeters which warn the "auditee" that it does nothing. 3. e-Meters may NOT be used outside of religious context. Violations abound, Mr. Carmichael.

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    • 35811 TG Baggins Wed, Aug 27, at 09:06am
      About two months ago the same Rev. John Carmichael approached a group usings their 1st Amendment rights of free speech to protest Scientology. He leaned in to a person filming the protest and whispered to them, "I smell (explitive for female organs)." Now what kind of revered does that to people on the street? If its not commercial why do they sell books? And the stress test itself breaks a fereal court order because they offer to medical examination (stress) without licensing or training.

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    • 35791 Diane Marcab Wed, Aug 27, at 07:45am
      >>>>>>>>>As long as commercial gain is not sought. <<<<<<<<<< Notice the piles of books, which they will try very hard to sell you if you take one fo their phony stress tests. Mention that it is illegal to sell stuff in the subway and they will call it a donation. Try to give them less than the "suggested" (ahem) donation and when they refuse a genuine donation call 3-11 and have them tossed out. The only point to scientology is getting money--yours. There is noting "religious" about them.

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    • 35781 Len Wed, Aug 27, at 07:36am
      This so called "Stress Test" is apparently measuring psychological stress, since there's obviously no treadmill involved for doing physical stress tests. So are the people evaluating these psychological "Stress Test" results properly certified or licensed by the City, State, or appropriate professional organization to be doing so? Or is this test actually a scam being administered by unqualified people that invariably shows a problem that "Dianetic$/$cientology can help"?

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